Risk Grustlers / Episode #5

De*Romanticizing the Cybersecurity Complexity

featuring Ross Haleliuk

With a personality that rivals Taylor Swift, Ross Haleliuk is the Head of Product at LimaCharlie and the esteemed author of the famous cybersecurity blog, Venture in Security. He is joining us for the fifth episode of Risk Grustlers, to break down the notion of complexity that surrounds cybersecurity. 

Tune in to listen to Ross share his anecdotes as a non-tech background professional who’s had to unlearn and see beyond the acronyms and jargon. 

“It's all about finding that balance between what products can do and where human expertise shines.”

“Upon examining the market from a foundational perspective, it becomes evident that numerous trends involve the convergence of products and services. This convergence blurs the lines between product and service providers, leading to a unified entity.”

Listen on
Your favourite platforms


Ross’s journey into cybersecurity began with a unique path. He had been involved in various tech fields for over a decade, including e-commerce, retail, and financial technology. 

He joined a cybersecurity startup as a product leader despite his initial hesitation due to the complexity and jargon associated with the field.

And this episode uncovers exactly that. With a rather refreshing take on the cybersecurity landscape today, Ross is de-romanticizing the complexity, one day at a time. 

We also touched on Ross’s perspective as an angel investor and industry insider, emphasizing the importance of balance in cybersecurity startup founders. (along with some incredible advice for teams who are trying to sell to CISOs) 

So grab a snack, get cozy, and dive straight in! 

In this episode, we will tackle the 

Highlights from the episode

More Episodes

Derek Kalles & Glen Willis
Kalles Group
Episode #1
Strategies to Master Cloud Security
Davis Hake
Co-Founder of Resilience
Episode #1
Fancy some acronym soup, mate?
Vignesh Kumar
Manager of Security and Privacy at Microsoft
Episode #2
Do Auditors Have Horns?
Walter Haydock
CEO of StackAware
Episode #3
AI With a Pinch of Responsibility
Gary Hunter
Cybersecurity at The Walt Disney Company
Episode #4
Back to Basics: A Crash Course for Experts!
Satya Nayak
Head of Security Engineering & Operations at Outreach
Episode #6
Are You YAFing, Bud?
Renae Martin
Senior Technical Program Manager
Episode #7
The Process of Setting Up A Process To Set Up A Process
Jason Leuenberger
Team Coach
Episode #8
A Scoop of Risk, Squishy Not Crunchy!
Akshay Ahuja
Principal - Information Security
Episode #9
The Art of Breaking Into the Security Space
Shashank Karincheti
Senior Manager - Razorpay
Episode #10
The Perks of Automating Audits
Joshua Zweig
Zip Security
Episode #2
Cracking the Cyber Code with Evolving Perspectives of Cybersecurity
Beau Butaud
Risk and Compliance Manager at Moss Adams
Episode #3
Compliance Beyond the Checkbox: A Fresh Perspective on Auditors and Risk
Farshad Abasi
Founder and CEO of Forward Security
Episode #4
Cyber Roulette: Playing with Digital Risks
Aaron Worthman
CIO & CSO at Spire One
Episode #11
Security: Building a Business Within a business

See Scrut in action!