Outsmarting the fancy security tool trap
Featuring
Renae Martin
In this episode, Renae Martin, Senior Program Manager, Responsible AI at Microsoft, unpacks why flashy security tools can create a false sense of safety without the right processes underneath. She shares practical ways to design lightweight, durable security processes, win buy-in without busywork, and keep innovation alive, so tools support your program, not define it.


Renae Martin
Senior Program Manager, Responsible AI, Microsoft
Outsmarting the fancy security tool trap
A Scoop of Risk, Squishy Not Crunchy!
Welcome to the first episode of Risk Grustlers podcast! In this episode, we walk through the journey of Davis Hake, who is the co-founder of Resilience – a pioneering cyber risk solution company based in New York City, which is redefining how companies think of the ‘economics’ of risk management.


Description
Drawn by the excitement of the early 2000s tech landscape, Renae chose to transition from an entirely different field – journalism to the cybersecurity industry. In this episode, we are uncovering her experience of starting in this industry as a very beginner to what she feels now as an experienced professional.
GRC often faces perceptions of being unexciting and undervalued compared to development teams – and Renae is no stranger to this conception.
However, as a project manager who’s lead several security projects – she has seen the role evolve and is sharing how the real value lies in understanding optimal solutions and collaborating closely with teams to innovate.
That’s not it though, we are going deep and hitting Renae with just the right questions – who wins in GRC – a pushover or a hard ass? What are the implications of assertiveness and empathy in long-term GRC success?
If you’re interested in learning her thoughts on these topics, then don’t forget to tune in to our seventh episode of Risk Grustlers!
Highlights from the episode
- Transitioning to information security industry and navigating the GRC space
- Balancing collaboration and assertiveness while executing risk management activities
- Understanding the security budget for establishing a minimum viable risk program in growth-stage companies
“I've learned from past experiences that when flashy tools were brought in without the necessary structure and support, it often led to issues. There's no magic solution in a tool alone; it requires knowledge and effort to work effectively. Establishing a strong foundational risk program comes first.”