Cybersecurity is changing faster than its problems
Cybersecurity has never had a shortage of tools. AI is now making it possible to create even more of them, faster than teams can determine which ones are genuinely useful. In this episode of Risk Grustlers, Mike Privette (Founder and Cybersecurity Economist at Return on Security) joins Nicholas Muy (CISO and VP of Engineering at Scrut Automation) to examine the gap between movement and progress. They discuss the market reaction to AI, why security vendors are becoming harder to distinguish, how expectations for security teams are changing, and why the industry keeps returning to the same unresolved problems.
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Description
If you are deciding whether cybersecurity’s AI surge should change what you buy, how you hire, or where your team spends its time, this episode offers a practical lens for all three.
Mike’s market perspective will help you look beyond announcements and price swings to the signals that matter, including customer behavior, operational needs, and the total cost of turning a quick prototype into something dependable. Nick brings those questions back to how security teams test, adopt, and use AI in practice.
You will come away better equipped to evaluate AI-enabled products and internal builds, recognize the skills security practitioners will increasingly need, and identify where automation could create capacity for higher-value work. The goal is not to predict the next trend, but to make smarter decisions in the middle of it.
What listeners will take away?
- Why AI headlines capture only a small part of cybersecurity, while data, identity, and long-standing risk problems continue to drive the work
- How to distinguish an AI-assisted workflow that creates real leverage from internal software that introduces new ownership and maintenance costs
- How AI is reshaping security teams’ roles, hiring expectations, and capacity to address work buried in the backlog
Quote from the Episode
“AI security is obviously all we hear about, but that’s, like, a super tiny part of the entire industry. Most of it is data and identity, and then all the ways around these same problems we’ve never solved.”
— Mike Privette, Founder and Cybersecurity Economist, Return on Security
About the Risk Grustlers Podcast
Risk Grustlers is a podcast for people working in security, risk, and governance who want sharper conversations than the usual industry soundbites. Each episode features CISOs, security leaders, and risk practitioners sharing how they think through the real operational challenges behind cybersecurity, compliance, AI governance, and enterprise risk.
Hosted by Aayush Ghosh Choudhury (CEO and Co-founder of Scrut Automation) and Nicholas Muy (CISO at Scrut Automation), this podcast series focuses on practical lessons, hard-earned perspectives, and the nuance that comes only from years spent in the security and compliance space.
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