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01 Nov 2023

Security insecurity: Feeling secure vs. being secure Featuring Satya Nayak

In this episode, Satya Nayak, Head of Security Engineering & Operations at Outreach, unpacks the realities of leading modern security teams. From making the case for a security budget to bridging the gap between feeling secure and being secure, Satya shares fast-moving, refreshingly real insights on building trust, leading with authenticity, and keeping security human.

Satya Nayak
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Head of Security Engineering and Operations, Outreach
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Description

Building a security team, let alone scaling it, is no small feat; there are several layers and factors to consider. In this episode, Satya shares with us his experience of building teams across different environments and some core concerns he makes sure to address.

Moving along, the conversation also tackles the question of how much growth-stage companies should invest in security, with special attention on the kind of messaging that they should be focusing on first.

There is a sharp distinction between feeling secure and being secure – an approach that Satya uses to determine which side of the coin a company wishes to fall into.

If you’re interested in learning the key strategies from an esteemed security professional on how to get your security budget approved, how to keep up with the attackers in the present threat landscape, as well as the know-how on staying up-to-date with the new frameworks, then tune in right now!

Highlights from the episode

  • Building security teams without killing the passion of your team members
  • Feeling secure vs. being secure - two sides of a coin
  • Using hard numbers to back up larger scale and advancements
"It is important to not smother your team's passion for security under a pile of processes and organizational rules."

About the Risk Grustlers Podcast

Risk Grustlers is a podcast for people working in security, risk, and governance who want sharper conversations than the usual industry soundbites. Each episode features CISOs, security leaders, and risk practitioners sharing how they think through the real operational challenges behind cybersecurity, compliance, AI governance, and enterprise risk.

Hosted by Aayush Ghosh Choudhury (CEO and Co-founder of Scrut Automation) and Nicholas Muy (CISO at Scrut Automation), this podcast series focuses on practical lessons, hard-earned perspectives, and the nuance that comes only from years spent in the security and compliance space.

Hosted By
Aayush Ghosh Choudhury
Co-Founder & CEO, Scrut Automation
Nicholas Muy
CISO, Scrut Automation
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