All about compliance commoditization, GRC 4.0 & AI
Featuring
Nicholas Muy
In this episode, Scrut's CISO Nicholas Muy joins CEO Aayush Ghosh Choudhury to unpack what’s next for GRC—from AI agents to audit automation. With experience spanning DHS to startups, Nicholas shares a no-fluff perspective on building modern, resilient programs that actually scale. This is GRC, leveled up.


All about compliance commoditization, GRC 4.0 & AI
All about compliance commoditization, GRC 4.0 & AI
In this episode, Scrut's CISO Nicholas Muy joins CEO Aayush Ghosh Choudhury to unpack what’s next for GRC—from AI agents to audit automation. With experience spanning DHS to startups, Nicholas shares a no-fluff perspective on building modern, resilient programs that actually scale. This is GRC, leveled up.


Description
Nicholas Muy isn’t here to sugarcoat it: compliance is changing—and the shift is bigger than commoditization. It’s convergence.
In this episode, he explores how security and compliance are merging into unified, intelligent workflows—with AI agents playing a key role. Drawing on his vast experience in cybersecurity, Nick breaks down what agentic GRC actually looks like and how early-stage companies can embrace frameworks without being boxed in by them.
Whether you’re rethinking audits, scaling trust, or experimenting with AI teammates, this episode offers a glimpse into what’s next for GRC.
Highlights from the episode
- How security and compliance are converging faster than you think
- The rise of agentic AI and what it means for GRC teams
- Building adaptable, audit-ready programs that don’t drain your team
“Compliance gave us the time and structure to gradually build and refine our security posture.”
About the Risk Grustlers Podcast
Risk Grustlers is a podcast for people working in security, risk, and governance who want sharper conversations than the usual industry soundbites. Each episode features CISOs, security leaders, and risk practitioners sharing how they think through the real operational challenges behind cybersecurity, compliance, AI governance, and enterprise risk.
Hosted by Aayush Ghosh Choudhury (CEO and Co-founder of Scrut Automation) and Nicholas Muy (CISO at Scrut Automation), this podcast series focuses on practical lessons, hard-earned perspectives, and the nuance that comes only from years spent in the security and compliance space.

























